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    I'm looking to buy a gaming PC sometime in the next month or so in readiness for both the HTC Vive (pre-orders open tomorrow and shipping starts in April) and Oculus launches. Gone are the days when I had any desire to build one myself, so anyone have any recommendations for a decent place to buy one?

    The last three desktops I have bought all came from Dell, but these were more workstations than gaming machines. I've looked at their Alienware range, and on the face of it they look ok, but are they overpriced?

    According to the min specs for Oculus I'll need an minimum of i5, 8Gb ram and GTX 970 with hdmi output. With the Vive being similar. Ideally though I want i7, 16Gb and dual gfx cards, although I was reading that there's still some uncertainty about support for VR SLI? Should I just go with a single Titan X maybe? Or is the GTX 980Ti a better bet?

    Any recommendations are much appreciated.

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    Highly recommend these guys.

    http://www.cclonline.com/category/20...67030-1267033/

    The above are specifically VR ready gaming machines. (or so they claim) Have used the company for over 20 years though and never had an issue. Best prices and service imho


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    Naturally you will be ordering this one: http://www.cclonline.com/product/186.../CCL-NVB-X99A/

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    Thanks pal. I quite like the look of this: http://www.cclonline.com/pc-range/NV...2020201000002/

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    Alienware is way overpriced, they're designer PC's.

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    If you are familiar/comfy with Dell workstations, why not look at their Precision range. They are super stable, highly scalable, and normally come with good quality parts (e.g. decent size PSU) instead of what they fit to the OptiPlex/Vostro ranges.

    If you do think about going down that route, unfortunately there will be a bit of work - my recommendation would be to purchase the actual computer from them, but then ditch the professional gfx card for a consumer one( spec the cheapest card the offer), and things like SSD's / RAM can normally be purchased cheaper elsewhere. The other catch is to make sure it has all the features you are expecting - e.g. when I purchased mine a few years ago, I got 2 x PCI-e X16 slots, but if I want SLI I needed to purchase an additional riser card ( I think SLI has been standardised in their range now but I hope you get the idea that these may not have features normal consumers expect).

    Bit of an unorthodox approach, but their high end Precisions make a lot of supposed specialised gaming machines look like little toys, and one of the reasons Precisions aren't the cheapest is because Dell perform serious validation of these as opposed to chucking a load of parts together and hoping there are no bugs - i.e. mine is built around a server chipset and has ECC RAM which is very different to regular desktops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    Thanks pal. I quite like the look of this: http://www.cclonline.com/pc-range/NV...2020201000002/
    That does look good. From my experience it is not worth getting a machine with an SSD smaller than that one... initially had an SSD of 120GB.

    Waste of time. Your OS uses that (even if you think it wont) and then you get no benefits other than OS speed from the SSD. Double it and you will really be pleased you did.

    Would be interested to hear your VR reviews in the coming months as I honestly am very sceptical of the whole thing. I want to be excited but so far ...meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over Carl View Post
    If you are familiar/comfy with Dell workstations, why not look at their Precision range. They are super stable, highly scalable, and normally come with good quality parts (e.g. decent size PSU) instead of what they fit to the OptiPlex/Vostro ranges.

    If you do think about going down that route, unfortunately there will be a bit of work - my recommendation would be to purchase the actual computer from them, but then ditch the professional gfx card for a consumer one( spec the cheapest card the offer), and things like SSD's / RAM can normally be purchased cheaper elsewhere. The other catch is to make sure it has all the features you are expecting - e.g. when I purchased mine a few years ago, I got 2 x PCI-e X16 slots, but if I want SLI I needed to purchase an additional riser card ( I think SLI has been standardised in their range now but I hope you get the idea that these may not have features normal consumers expect).

    Bit of an unorthodox approach, but their high end Precisions make a lot of supposed specialised gaming machines look like little toys, and one of the reasons Precisions aren't the cheapest is because Dell perform serious validation of these as opposed to chucking a load of parts together and hoping there are no bugs - i.e. mine is built around a server chipset and has ECC RAM which is very different to regular desktops.
    Thanks for the suggestion, it's more work than I wanted to do, but it's an option. My current desktop is a precision, and I have had a few of them now. I've never had any issues and they seem rock solid as you say. I'm just wary of getting inside one as it's years since I built my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Would be interested to hear your VR reviews in the coming months as I honestly am very sceptical of the whole thing. I want to be excited but so far ...meh
    I'll let you know. I'm hoping it's going to live up to the hype. Ultimately it'll come down to content. If the content providers embrace it, then it has a chance of being a real revolution. But it may be a chicken and egg situation. Without a huge user base, the content providers may never materialise in any significant number or put the necessary resources into it. And without decent content, the user base may never grow enough for it to become a paradigm shifting technology.

    The price has to come down first though, if it's not significantly cheaper in 18 months then it'll most likely fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    I'll let you know. I'm hoping it's going to live up to the hype. Ultimately it'll come down to content. If the content providers embrace it, then it has a chance of being a real revolution. But it may be a chicken and egg situation. Without a huge user base, the content providers may never materialise in any significant number or put the necessary resources into it. And without decent content, the user base may never grow enough for it to become a paradigm shifting technology.

    The price has to come down first though, if it's not significantly cheaper in 18 months then it'll most likely fail.
    I think that is why the Kinect struggled. It was optional and developers didn't embrace it. Shame as I think it could be far better.

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    The AMD 'Polaris' and Nvidia 'Pascal' based graphics cards should be shipping (spring/summer) around the same time that you will get your hands on the VR gear. Both companies are saying that their respective cards are a major step forward in graphics performance - so it might be worth hanging fire on the 980ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattikins View Post
    The AMD 'Polaris' and Nvidia 'Pascal' based graphics cards should be shipping (spring/summer) around the same time that you will get your hands on the VR gear. Both companies are saying that their respective cards are a major step forward in graphics performance - so it might be worth hanging fire on the 980ti.
    Thanks for the heads up. The Vive ships in April, so I may have to take the plunge before they are released. If so, I may go for minimum spec GTX970 then upgrade when the new cards are released.

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    There was a post on here a while back recommending this buyer. Seems quite cheap so I'm watching him for when I need my upgrade.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014294533...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


    Not necessarily this build but you can basically build your own, just click there shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    I'm just wary of getting inside one as it's years since I built my own.
    I'm sure you know this already, but it's changed massively since way back when. It's very difficult to go wrong nowadays - spend a few minutes on toms hardware and you'll be good to go.

    As an aside, I ran the Steam VR ready app yesterday - my aging card (Sapphire 270x 4gb) is up to the job apparently.

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    Scan.co.uk are my favourite supplier, they do pre-built systems but I prefer to build my own so haven't tried them but they seem to have a good rep all round. Dell Precisions are awesome, pricey but the case alone is solid let alone the components.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsatan View Post
    Scan.co.uk are my favourite supplier, they do pre-built systems but I prefer to build my own so haven't tried them but they seem to have a good rep all round. Dell Precisions are awesome, pricey but the case alone is solid let alone the components.
    I used to use scan when I was building my own, they were always my go to supplier for hardware. Haven't bought from them for years though, but will give them another look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganty View Post
    I'm sure you know this already, but it's changed massively since way back when. It's very difficult to go wrong nowadays - spend a few minutes on toms hardware and you'll be good to go.

    As an aside, I ran the Steam VR ready app yesterday - my aging card (Sapphire 270x 4gb) is up to the job apparently.
    I'm tempted to go down that route again, as a project. But the last system I built put me off for life, I had all sorts of issues. And diagnosing the issue was a nightmare. Turned out it was the motherboard, but that was the last component I tested. Drove me insane. Plus I'm an impatient cunt, so the insides of my machines looked like an Indian phone exchange.

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    Think I found the one....

    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    Think I found the one....

    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish
    �11.99 delivery! What a joke


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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    Think I found the one....

    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish
    That is fucking nuts.. I love it.

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    Overclockers is where I get all my gaming PC stuff from. Give em a call. Friendly as and they know their shit.

    As for VR, I'd be amazed if even 2 x 970's ran any game at a decent FPS. Even on minimum graphic settings and trust me when I say, you'll need a decent frame rate. Else motion sickness will ensue.

    I truly believe those min specs are just to get the pre-orders in. You will need a beast to run games anywhere near to what you're used to on your normal monitor.

    Those Pascal jobbies which were mentioned a few posts up are probably the way to go. Although I have heard that with Direct X 12 you can soon SLI/Crossfire/Whatever 2 cards of differing brands. With the best results coming from a 980 TI and a Fury. Crazy madness.

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